Action Cameras for Cycling (Sony HDR-AS30V)

My 1st Gadget post… How exciting!
To save you time (?), this post is not really a typical product review. I prefer to leave this to specialists, such as Techmoan, who is my favourite reviewer for these things. This post is rather an account of my personal experiences and impressions with my current Sony camera and a few others I´ve owned over the years. So, if you are looking for a good product review or you don´t like reading, please watch Techmoan´s reviews on the Sony Action Cams or the many others he has on his site. Keep in mind the review below is really for the Sony HDR-AS10/15 models while mine is a newer AS30V, but they are almost identical:

He has also made a comparison video between the Sony AS10 and the GoPRO Hero3.

I´ve always been sort of a geek. Less so in more recent years, however, once a geek always a geek, it seems. And in my geeky interests one of the things that I have always been keen about was cameras (video recording). I acquired my first ever digital camera in 1998 (a Fujifilm DX-10) while on a trip to the US and it it´s max resolution was 0.8 megapixel (1024×768 pixel), could not record videos, had a 2 MB (not GB) SmartMedia card (later I bought 8 and 16 MB cards) and a RS232 serial interface for (slowly) transferring the pictures (this was before USB). This camera was stolen in Brazil in 2002 when the entire bus I was travelling in with everyone in it was kidnapped and held hostage by criminals for almost 3h (thankfully no one got hurt).

Mini DV Camera
Mini DV Camera

Not accounting for the many consumer photo/video cameras I had along the years, there have been those I bought specifically to record activities such as car trips and bike rides.

Keyring Camera
Keyring Camera

Years ago I bought a very cheap Mini DV camera such as this one. Few months later I bought a keyring camera like this. Their size was ideal, but they all had big drawbacks such as low image resolution and short battery life.

SJ1000 Action Camera
SJ1000 Action Camera

I later bought a SJ1000 which I have used to record bike rides until the Sony arrived and still use as a car trip recorder. I also had a Kodak ZX1 for a while, but that was quite disappointing. Given this is old stuff I´ll refrain from writing more about them, but you have the links, if interested, and you will still find them on sale.

Although a geek, I´ve been a rather “economic” one, never allowing myself to spend a lot of money on this “addiction” because of the other priorities of life (such as the kids´ University fund). The Sony HDR-AS30V was my first entry into a more sophisticated category of device.

Even though, at the time of purchase, the AS30V was not the entry level, it was also not the top Sony product in this category. Sony had already released the AS100V as their top of the range product. I did consider a GoPro, but their prices, even for the entry level version, were still a bit more than I was willing to pay at the time and, perhaps because of the way I am, I felt a bit annoyed with the “GoPRO Cult” many owners appear to belong to.

To start with, I do not recommend the Sony camera, even though there are many things I like about it. It may sound conflicting with what I wrote above, but for the price of this camera I´d recommend you actually spend a bit more and go for a GoPro or spend less and go for one of the Chinese made SJ series (with reservations given the lack of image stabilization).

Thumbs-Up IconThings I like about this camera:

    1. The picture and sound quality are truly exceptional. I did quite a lot of comparing with the likes of GoPROs, the Garmin Virb and some cheaper Chinese clones and I believe it’s in a pair with the GoPRO (perhaps better) and beats the VIRB hands-down when it comes to picture quality.
    2. The Image stabilization in video recording is great. It manages to eliminate most shaking even in very rough and uneven surfaces.
    3. Who said TV killed the Radio Star? It has a lot of radios built in… GPS, WiFi and NFC. WiFi for live video streaming to a smartphone and NFC for quick connection with the phone (which would be good if it worked well, but I don´t know if the problem is in the camera or in my phone, so giving it the benefit of the doubt).
    4. It has the ability to shoot stills at 11.9 MP (real pixel density, not interpolated), although the max resolution of time-lapsed pictures appears to be 1080p max.
    5. It has an external MIC connector
    6. It has several options of recording modes, even though I only ever used one.
    7. It comes with a 5m waterproof casing which is more than enough for my bike rides and surprisingly lets a reasonable amount of sound get through, not that this wold be a major advantage when is raining anyway.
    8. It can record while charging (although there appear to be some limitations, read below)
    9. Easy to use interface (buttons, menu layout, etc)
    10. Sufficient display for config and settings.
    11. Reasonable battery life for this type of device.
    12. It is not limited to 32GB MicroSD cards (with other limitations, see below)
    13. Built quality of the device is very good… the Sony brand is very reliable in this category.

thumbs-down-36-000000Things I don´t like:

    1. First and foremost, the provided PC software is awful. Yes, it has a few interesting features,butonmyDellXPS 15 with Windows 8.1 it crashes all the time. So let me write a few more bullet points about the things I don´t like in the software…
      • It wants to organize your life for you. I like to be in charge and do certain things manually. Goes away and starts scanning everything every time it loads (there might be those that may like this, I don´t)
      • It can only use GPS information for videos, not stills. It can produce videos with map overlays and other trip information such as speed, distance, etc. Example below:

        These are not very precise though. A positive here though (sorry to be mixed with the negatives) is that the software is also able to produce PiP videos where, for example, the Sony Camera records a forward facing video and another camera records a backwards facing video. You can then have the backwards video in a the corner of your forwarding facing one (never tested this though).
      • Even though the camera can take photos at time intervals, the software does not have the option to produce time-lapsed videos with them.
      • If the card is full, when connected to the PC it takes ages (really… something like 10 min) for the software to show the pictures in its interface. Something is not right here, as when I connect the camera, I can open the card as a storage device in windows and am able to see the pictures immediately.
      • The transfer of the files from the camera to the PC is not as fast as it could be.
      • When transferring the files to the PC, the folder creation process uses a dd-mm-yyyy format, which might be OK for most, but I would rather prefer yyyy-mm-dd for easiness of sorting and I could not find a place to configure this in the software. It appears to pick the folder format from the configured Windows taskbar date format. I changed the taskbar Clock format to show the day of the week and it started to produce folders with the day of the week as well.
      • Video editing is very limited and not very intuitive. Of course, Sony wants you to buy Sony Vegas, or Movie Studio or some other PRO video editing suite. Greedy bastards.
      • My Dell XPS 15 has a Ultra high 4K resolution display. The software can´t handle this screen size very well and absolutely doesn´t know how to handle screens with different DPI scales (not only a problem for this software though). For example, interface text gets so small it´s unreadble and if I am using the notebook screen I have to guess while typing a title as the interface is all messed up in that field.
    2. Things I don´t like in the camera itself…
      • Minimum interval for time-lapse pictures is 5 seconds. Too long in my opinion. Ideal would be if 1 and 3 seconds options existed also, which the hardware could check against the speed of the card inserted in the camera (I have a fast 64GB Samsung EVO card). It can also only shoot pictures at 1080p, which is sufficient for Full-HD time-lapse videos, but not enough to use as stills.
      • The camera does not give write access to the card when connected. This means you can´t delete files in the card, so you cannot free space deleting the pictures or videos you don´t like without taking the card out of the camera. You have to transfer all the files (even those you don´t want) and format the card to free space. I´ve heard the GoPro has the same limitation apparently (?).
      • NFC doesn´t work properly with my phone: I have a HTC One M8 phone with NFC and it rarely works for quick connection with the camera. Tried touching the phone to the NFC point in the camera in many spots and angles. Quicker to connect manually.
      • The WiFi connection is not stable. Disconnects often over time, even though I only use it to adjust the camera position. I have also purchased a DSC QX-10 camera that has the same (and perhaps even worse) problem.
      • The camera design: Its round on the bottom. It won´t stay upright without the waterproof casing. This is weakness that Sony has apparently recognized and fixed in later models.
    3. Even more things I don´t like about Sony…
      • Although they answer reasonably quickly, Sony´s support is awful. They don´t know their own products very well and contacting them is generally a waste of time, unless you have hardware issues under warranty.
      • Sony´s overall post-sales attitude: They sent me an email asking to provide feedback. I provided respectful feedback (such as this one) and they said my feedback wasn´t acceptable and invited me to re-write it. I didn´t, because I didn´t want to spend another 20 min writing the same things to get rejected again, but I wouldn´t have included it here as a negative if they were receptive to negative feedback. Organizations should not ask for feedback if all they want to hear from their customers is the stuff that helps them sell more. It´s just unfair to those that have given their time to them and perhaps made them aware of things they could improve upon.

Now, a few practical things I found out about this camera while using it that I did not see in Techmoan’s review or anywhere else.

  • Number of files apparently limited to 40,000: While I was riding my bike from Santiago de Compostela to Finisterre the camera beeped and I could see it had stopped taking time-lapsed pictures. I stopped the bike to look what was going on and the display was showing “Max”. I immediately related that to storage space and started to curse Sony, because the 64 GB MicroSD card only half full. So I replaced the card in the camera with a 32 GB card and everything started working again. Only later I realised the “Max” message was not related to the amount of storage being used in the card, but the number of files. Because I was taking time-lapsed pictures with 5 seconds intervals that meant that, by the end of the day, the camera had taken between 2,000 and 4,000 pictures, or in other words, JPG files. When the number of files in the camera reached 40,000 the camera stopped working. While this doesn´t comply with FAT16 (you can have more than 65K files in each folder, except the root) it´s the best explanation I can provide as recording video the camera does fill the 64GB storage space of the card, but obviously with less files. So, if you are planning long periods taking time-lapse pictures keep this in mind.
  • Sony Skeleton Frame for the HDR-ASxxx Cameras
    Sony Skeleton Frame for the HDR-ASxxx Cameras

    Little issues with bottom cap/lid: Another thing is the hinge that secures the bottom cap or lid in the camera tends to bent and break. Most of the time I use an accessory called “Skeleton Frame” (which was also included in Techmoan´s video review above). It´s a bit of an ugly and odd thing, but is the only mount that provides access to the bottom connectors, such as the USB and MIC. So while in the skeleton case the camera can continue to be charged while recording (for obvious reasons the waterproof case does not have any holes). With the constant opening and closing of the cap/lid to attach the USB charging cable the hinge on my camera is at the point of rupture now.

  • Foggy/misty lens: Now, this one I saw in Techmoan´s review to be honest, but also experienced it myself. In cold days condensation starts to build inside the waterproof camera case, because the camera, while recording, warms up and the exterior of the case is very cold. This tends to fog the lens from the inside. It seems Sony knew very well of this issue, but instead of “out-engineering” it so that it didn´t become an issue, they apparently saw the opportunity to sell little sachets of “anti-fog” materials that magically fit in a space right underneath the camera within the case. Greedy bastards, huh?
  • The camera can record while charging, but that depends on the charger´s power. If you plug the camera in a charger port that provides less the 1A of charging current the camera appears simply to ignore the charger and use battery power instead. Luckily the “PowerBar” (external battery) I use while riding has a 1.3A port and even a 2.1A port which provide more sufficient power for camera operation and charging.

Well, I think this is all I have to say about the Sony Action Camera

SJ M10 Action Camera
SJ M10 Action Camera

Few weeks before I left to Saint Jean Pied de Port for my pilgrimage, I bought also a SJ M10 based on the review I saw in Techmoan´s site. One of my latest videos, riding a recumbent bike, was filmed with this little camera. It doesn´t have WiFi or any of the fancy radios that the Sony does, but it does a brilliant job at its core which is recording videos. There is, however, no image stabilization on video recording which is a shame. You do get quite shaky videos with this camera if mounted on a handlebar, for example. Keep also in mind, this camera cannot handle MicroSD card sizes bigger than 32GB. It suffers from a few of the same issues I highlighted in the Sony such as the min interval for time-lapse photos is also 5 seconds, for example.

Despite these shortcomings, I really like this camera and it costs less than 1/2 of what I paid for the Sony (in promotional price), is very compact, comes with a lot of different cases and does a brilliant job in my opinion.

On the bright side it has a small 1.5″ display in the back to help frame the picture. If you are on a budget, but still want a good action cam that you can also use as a trip recorder in your car I totally recommend this one.

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Riding around Bracknell on a Recumbent Bike.


Right then… created this video as a request from a family member who, after watching my previous video (with the camera mounted on the bike itself) asked me if I could produce a video of me riding it.

Keeping in mind we are all amateurs here, OK. Don´t go expecting Hollywood style production. Having said that, I think my friend Gyuszi did a rather good job with the camera. Thank you Gyuszi!

Here it is Rafa!

Few comments… after seeing me from an “outside” perspective, I noticed that I appeared to be too “cramped” in the bike. Believe me, that is not how it feels at all. Nevertheless, I noticed also a few improvements I can do, which I think will make the ride even more comfortable, such as reducing the size of the steering bar and trying somehow to change the position to a less reclined one. Not sure yet if this is possible at all on this bike, but I´ve managed to gain about 3 cm in hight just by pumping more air into the suspension.

Hope it can be useful to others as well. Thanks for watching!

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Camino de Santiago: Hang in there please...

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Camino de Santiago
Camino de Santiago Event Picture

Hi folks,

I know, it’s been a while since my last post. It still will be a while longer until I have gathered all the visual material, my notes and everything else, put it all together and produced the posts I intend to.

To give you an idea I have collected about 90,000 (yeah, 90 thousand) pictures during the 3 weeks of pilgrimage (I simply left the camera rolling and taking pictures every 5 seconds) and have also several hours of video taken between me and my pilgrimage partner.

Just separating the exceptional from the trivial is a daunting task. After that comes a bit of storyboarding, video editing and creation (inc. all the time-lapse videos), YouTube uploads and the writing of the posts themselves (which I´ll try to keep to a minimum).

If you don´t know this already, this blog and my cycling activities are hobbies. They don´t pay the bills (in fact they cost me quite a bit of money), so as I came back from the Pilgrimage I had to devote myself to the boring stuff that pays the bills.

If that wasn´t enough I have also a backlog of post I want to finish and put behind me before I devote myself fully to sharing the experiences on the Camino with you. Excuses, excuses, excuses… (but good ones).

I am just adding the final touches on the post of my last day in the 3 day bike trip to the Isle of Wight the week before Easter (I had started it before I left on the Pilgrimage and did not want to leave it unfinished before devoting myself to posting about the Camino). I will also post a simple video of me riding my Recumbent bike as there was one request from a family member who is interested in these types of bicycles (might be useful for other people too, don´t know). So that is what´s is coming next.

In the mean time, if you are interested, there is a series of great videos recently produced by Cacá Strina, another bike pilgrim (narration is in Portuguese only though).

Her blog can be accessed here: http://www.cacastrina.com/?cat=38 (suggest you go from bottom up i.e. 1st episode on the bottom to 6th episode on the top).

Anyway, this post is just t

o let anyone coming to this site know that I am still here and I will, as promised, be posting about the Camino de Santiago bike pilgrimage.

Hang on in there! Don´t give up on me…

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No emails

If you wrote to me these past few days, I apologise in advance. I have not been able to read emails since I started the pilgimage. I was pretty sure I had configured my tablet to download the emails, but it is not happening and I have been unable to access them via wemail.
Will respond all emails upon my return to the UK next weekend.
Thanks!

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EyeCycled posts to resume after the pilgrimage

Hi there.

Typing this post on the small screen of a mobile phone. Not really the best way to run a blog perhaps ( wouldn”d know as this is my first and only) but not much choice right now.

I am currently in Leon having cycled 81 Km today. I am on the top bunk bed in a room with several dozen bunk beds and not even 1 power socket in sight. All part of the Camino.

I have been posting pictures to the EyeCycled Facebook page though. If you like to know of my progress, please like the page.

Just think this will be my last post for a while. When I get back to the UK I’ll work on producing a more detailed account of this trip.

I have been recording the entire trip on time-lapse photograph (my Sony action can takes 1 photo every 5 seconds) so you’ll have the benefit of watching an entire day’s of cycling in j st a few minutes.

If there are typos in this text, please excuse me in advance. Tiredness does not go well with smartphone screens.

Burn Camino!

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Camino, day 3, Puente de Reina to Viana

Did about 62 Km today. The intention was to ride all the way to Logrono, but as we stopped in Viana just to look around (around 5pm) we decided to stay for the night.
We did a little stop at Irache where they have the famous wine fountain and I decided to part ways with my riding partner for a while and the the walkers route to Los Arcos, while my partner took the road. Needless to say he got there mucb earlier and what I got was my own experience to tell you there are parts of the camino there are definitely not suitable for biking, at least not for a loaded bike. There were moments I had literatelly lift my entire bike with all its load off the ground.
After a quick stop in Los Arcos for food we continued in the direction to Logrono stoping at Viana for the night.
Viana is such a great little town, high up in the hill. Albergue for the night was €8 and the pilgrims menu also €8 and food was great.
Please take a look at the EyeCycled Facebook page for some pictures.

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Camino, Day 2, Roncesvales to Puente De Reina

Did 80 Km today, to compensate the 30 Km yesterday. We need to keep an average of 60 Km a day to have enough time to be back from Santiago to Saint Jean.
There were many highlights in today’s ride, but as I mentioned in my previous post, please go to the EyeCycled Facebook page for pictures and some details.
I will be adding everything together once I return to the UK.
Buen Camino!

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Camino, day 1, Saint Jean to Roncesvales

Before you start reading, I wrote this post 2 days ago as I was already tucked in my bunk bed, but as I was ready to post, I found out WiFi did not reach there and I was without mobile phone signal. Yesterday the same thing, but frankly I wouldn’t have written anything anyway. Too tired.
I’ve been posting pictures in my EyeCycled Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/EyeCycled) and will leave that for later here as it is simply too complicated to move the pictures to the device I am using. Please like the page and keep checking if you want the visual experience.
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Today was different and that is good.
I am typing this using a tablet computer and I”ve never been very good with virtual keyboards,so will try to keep it short. To anyone that might be following this, I’ll do a complete makeover of this posts adding video and writting a more elaborate post. WiFi is also practically non existant and mobile signal is very weak, so no pictures today I’m afraid. I’ve added some in the EyeCycled Facebook while on the way though (click on the right)
we left Saint Jean late, around 10:30am. After having watched some videos of people struggling to push their bikes up on the walkers route, we decided to stick to the road. Perhaps I’ll do the camino again by foot one day and then take the walkers route.
Having taken the road was the right decision. It was perhaps easier, but that is not to say it was easy. Something like 90% iofthe 30 Km that separate Saint Jean from Roncesvales is s up hill, the famous Pyrinees Mountains.
We also had light rain on the way which would make the walkers route even more challenging.
We arrived in Roncesvales at 4:00pm and stopped for a coffee. The top of the mountain was very windy and cold. During the coffee we decided to stay at the “Albergue”. The cost is 12 Euros and the Pilgrims mealis 10. Today’s menu was pasta, then fish with potatoes and the desert was some white cream. All with wine and water. Not bad.
Ha a shower and then went to see the Catholic mass in the chapel.
Tomorrow the plan is to ride to Pamplona or further. The is another big hill on the way, not as high but with a high incline.

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Arrived in Saint Jean Pied de Port

It was a long drive, following a sleepless night, so I am nacket. We had to drop our 2 car sharers in Biarritz and arrived in Saint Jean around 9:30pm having to rush to find some place to eat as the hostel closes at 10pm.

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We are tucked in our beds and coincidently one of our room sharers is also Brazilian, from Rio.
Tomorrow the ride begins.

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The Backwards Brain Bicycle

I posted this video in my personal Facebook timeline last week, but I liked it so much I thought it would be cool to leave this account here.

All rights are recognized. I´d recommend you browse through his YouTube Channel. He´s got lots of interesting stuff there (not necessarily related to cycling though)

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Seeing the world one pedal stroke at a time